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David Miller's avatar

I’ve never been part of the CRC and can’t really speak to changes there, but the lion/fox analogy is interesting and seems to fit what’s going on in culture and politics.

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Andrew Shipley's avatar

This might be the wrong place for this comment, as it addresses the broader topic of how you are playing with the Lion & Foxes analogy.

The Lion and Fox analogy is insightful, but it also carries a somewhat cynical tone—similar to Jordan Peterson’s assertion that everything ultimately boils down to a power struggle. It seems to suggest that all leadership, whether political or otherwise, is driven primarily by self-interest rather than a complex interplay of truth, virtue, and self-interest.

That said, the way you’ve framed it raises important questions about how we navigate both hard power (force, authority) and soft power (persuasion, strategy) in shaping the world around us and standing for what we believe in.

My first instinct was to connect the Fox to the Winsome Wars or to Jesus’ command to be “wise as serpents.” But perhaps the real question isn’t just about Lions vs. Foxes—it’s about how Lions, Foxes, Serpents, and Lambs interact within leadership.

I’d love to hear your thoughts on how these four analogies—Lion, Fox, Serpent, and Lamb—shape leadership dynamics and whether they can be balanced in a way that reflects both wisdom and faithfulness in real-world or church leadership.

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