Wow. This is really interesting. I accidentally jumped to 43:00. I listened for 15 min and found all your insights really useful. Your explanation of the modernist/fundamentalist divide helped me understand why I felt at odds with many in the church. And then your example of three accounts of a car wreck was 🎯. It doesn't mean the wreck didn't happen. It makes me wonder what I've overlooked because I didn't like someone's account of what happened?
I need to go and watch the whole video, but if I didn't get to it, I wanted to make sure I posted a message thanking your for the video.
For years (highschool/college) I struggled with Joshua 10:13; it discredited the Bible IMO. Calvin did a good job explaining how and why science and faith shouldn't be in conflict. They weren't fundamentalists, but there was a tension with this attempt to reconcile science and faith. It wasn't until JBP/Cyprian started describing the themes, the emergent themes of humanity, that something clicked.
I recently listened to this episode with an orthodox priest.
Before I would have dismissed his position that "we believe it happened/happens, but we don't try to – or need to – explain it." That would have sounded like a cop out to me 10 years ago. But it's like the witnesses of the car accident. The color of the car doesn't matter nearly as much as believing the accident happened and seeing if someone needs help.
The best episode of Cyprian (AKA Vin Armani) to link to is this one (starting about 45 min in):
He's kind of all over the place, and I don't look to him for answers. I just credit him and Pete Quinones with giving me another lens to view the world and faith through.
Haha, did you add that meme later? I don't remember seeing it. The page reloaded after my post (it's been an open tab for a week+). Had to comment ... again...
"Expect more atheists to follow as modernity recedes and many of the unworkable offerings of some sorts of post-modernity are found to be shallow or shills of other vacuous-meta-narratives-in-denial about themselves"
Yep. Pete Quinones wants to reject the enlightenment (too far for me). He wants life to return to experiential; he wants story telling over psychological analysis. He wants traditions and fables passed down, not some sterilized lab coat existence. It's an overcorrection, but unworkable shallow vacuous narratives are receding.
Wow. This is really interesting. I accidentally jumped to 43:00. I listened for 15 min and found all your insights really useful. Your explanation of the modernist/fundamentalist divide helped me understand why I felt at odds with many in the church. And then your example of three accounts of a car wreck was 🎯. It doesn't mean the wreck didn't happen. It makes me wonder what I've overlooked because I didn't like someone's account of what happened?
I need to go and watch the whole video, but if I didn't get to it, I wanted to make sure I posted a message thanking your for the video.
For years (highschool/college) I struggled with Joshua 10:13; it discredited the Bible IMO. Calvin did a good job explaining how and why science and faith shouldn't be in conflict. They weren't fundamentalists, but there was a tension with this attempt to reconcile science and faith. It wasn't until JBP/Cyprian started describing the themes, the emergent themes of humanity, that something clicked.
I recently listened to this episode with an orthodox priest.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/counterflow-with-buck-johnson/id1337741476?i=1000545705995
Before I would have dismissed his position that "we believe it happened/happens, but we don't try to – or need to – explain it." That would have sounded like a cop out to me 10 years ago. But it's like the witnesses of the car accident. The color of the car doesn't matter nearly as much as believing the accident happened and seeing if someone needs help.
The best episode of Cyprian (AKA Vin Armani) to link to is this one (starting about 45 min in):
https://freemanbeyondthewall.libsyn.com/episode-499
He's kind of all over the place, and I don't look to him for answers. I just credit him and Pete Quinones with giving me another lens to view the world and faith through.
Haha, did you add that meme later? I don't remember seeing it. The page reloaded after my post (it's been an open tab for a week+). Had to comment ... again...
"Expect more atheists to follow as modernity recedes and many of the unworkable offerings of some sorts of post-modernity are found to be shallow or shills of other vacuous-meta-narratives-in-denial about themselves"
Yep. Pete Quinones wants to reject the enlightenment (too far for me). He wants life to return to experiential; he wants story telling over psychological analysis. He wants traditions and fables passed down, not some sterilized lab coat existence. It's an overcorrection, but unworkable shallow vacuous narratives are receding.